Objectivity is a subjectively chose gesture
Submitted by WideAwake12 on Fri, 01/11/2013 - 10:30.
In someone's thinking. I can't recall reading a better article that was paired with an equally good response in a long time. Conner Habib and Drew Hempel. You both shine light and bring hope.
And so a reader of Realitysandwich responded to my comment
Funny how my comment was censored. haha. I reposted it -- only "fortified" with some specific quotes from Elizabeth Marshall Thomas. Of course Realitysandwich has been "shocked" before by my critiques of their New Age theosophist propaganda. There's some good info on realitysandwich but some stuff I disagree with. All in the name of free speech - you would think. haha.
Conner Habib is a gay porn star yet science has proven that homosexuality did not exist for 90% of human history -- the San Bushmen original human culture had no homosexuality. Even E.O. Wilson, the biologist, considers homosexuality to be proven as genetic. So science is very specialized -- scientists are limited -- E.O. Wilson has not taken seriously the empirical anthropological evidence of Elizabeth Marshall Thomas -- she has the proof -- there was no homosexuality for the original human culture going back to 100,000 BCE.
"Interestingly, the Ju/wasi took no position on homosexuality, which seemed unknown. Researchers of other hunter-gatherer societies have also found an
absence of homosexuality. Perhaps the Old Way, with its arduous lifestyle, does
not transmit this quality."
That's from Elizabeth Marshall Thomas' last book on the Khoisan – the Old Way. And from her first book – The Harmless People – the first on the Khoisan, after extensive anthropology work:
"Khoisan believe that it harms a girl terribly to be possessed before she is mature. It might even drive her mad. Khoisan have no real solution to this, as there are no prostitutes and only in a few bands are there promiscuous women. Homosexuality is not permitted either; the young men just have to get used to being tempted constantly but never gratified."
What was the secret of males constantly being tempted but never gratified? Maybe they were gratified – through the internal climax! That's the secret – the vagus nerve – the Khoisan males go through a month long training to learn this secret.
So psychologically -- this issue of NDEs is very similar to proof that homosexuality is based on genetics and not on morality. Even in non-western cultures -- like with Master Nan, Huai-chin of Mahayana Buddhism, it's recognized that NDEs are not "real" in the sense of truly going to heaven, etc. -- because just as scientific skeptics state -- the person did not really die.
Even in quantum physics scientists state that the infinite potential does not exist -- until it is measured. It is not that the infinite potential is randomized before it is measured. Nor is it that the infinite potential is an "unknown" that exists but can not be known. On the contrary -- the infinite potential does not exist until it is measured. Science is based on circular logic that goes back to the very issue of "incommensurability" in mathematics -- as Math Professor Luigi Borazacchini states -- the difference between science and reality is based on a "deep pre-established disharmony."
Some philosophers and math professors acknowledge that real numbers are not logically proven - they are a "convenient fiction" to quote Bertrand Russell. They are a mathematical error of long division as J.J. Asher, the award-winning math teacher states in his essay: The Myth of Irrational Numbers. But science does not use "pure" mathematics. The logic is proof by contradiction and so infinity is assumed to be "contained" by a materialistic and geometric measurement -- the distance as number is subsumed into the geometry as length. The point of long division for numbers is secretly converted to a line as geometry into the real number line.
And so, as math professor Joe Mazur states, there are no "infinitesimal measuring tools." Because of this -- the Motion Paradox of Zeno will never be solved by science. The same Motion Paradox exists for NDEs.
I have studied NDES -- for example the fascinating Biography Channel show -- "I Survived: Beyond and Back." I have watched the NDE documentaries and I've listened to the Skeptico podcasts on NDES, interviews with the authors, etc. Now there is a very subtle point that is made in the NDE visions. Yes some people go to Hell and some go to Heaven. But for example one person asked if the light of heaven was God and she was told -- the light of heaven is the breathing of God.
In other words the final reality is not subjective nor is it objective. The final reality is -- inherently -- unknown -- as quantum physics has proven. It is non-local and entangled and even holographic -- but it can not be seen as light nor can it be measured by technology. Logically the final reality, as quantum physicist Bernard d'Espagnat details so well in his Templeton Award winning quantum research on consciousness -- logically the final reality can be inferred. Logically inferred. This is what Socrates taught also and what Buddha taught and it's also the real teachings in the Bible. Logically inferred -- not seen, not even experienced through the personal state of awareness.
It's actually very simple - if not the NDE then what other state can be considered by humans? Of course that state is deep dreamless sleep. If the NDE is just a subjective experience then what of deep dreamless sleep? The fact is the normal person experiences no sense of time, no sense of space and no visions, etc. in deep dreamless sleep. And yet when we wake up we realize we got a good night's rest -- our bliss is restored. Logically we can infer that we still existed in our deep dreamless sleep -- but who we are -- logically we can infer -- that who we are is not our visions, nor a sense of time nor space.
Is consciousness just a biological after-effect -- a sort of automaton reaction from waking up from sleep? Or do we still exist as a person with consciousness even in deep dreamless sleep? Consciousness is not a vison, nor a thought, nor a sense of time, nor of space - nor is it personal, nor is it subjective nor is it objective. Consciousness is the reality that is always-already -- it is logically inferred as the source of the I-thought. Consciousness - that which is eternal -- and never changing - is called the Emptiness in Taoism or in Buddhism -- it is called Brahman in India -- it is the "infinite potential" in quantum physics.
The NDE can not capture this consciousness except in the descriptions of a void, blackness that was traveled through. Dr. Eben Alexander states he had to remember a particular melody in order to arouse his consciousness out of a sort of lower astral realm and then he was able to return to his experience of a higher astral realm. But as Mahayana Buddhism explains there are "different levels of Emptiness" and there are "different levels of consciousness."
See reality is not based on symmetric math as Western science relies on. Reality is based on complementary opposites -- yin and yang -- the musical Perfect Fifth and Perfect Fourth - the quantum "time-frequency uncertainty principle." And so a person with a low level of consciousness goes to Hell when they die and a person with a high level of consciousness goes to heaven. This is reflected holographically in their own body. Heaven and Hell exist within our own bodies. Tibetan monks know this - and so when a person dies they see which part of the body goes cold last. That demonstrates where the dead person's electromagnetic spirit was focused in their body - and holographically whether the person goes to Heaven or to Hell.
But nevertheless Emptiness and Consciousness eternally resonate through different levels and Emptiness remains impersonal - the substrate of reality -- called the eighth Level of consciousness in Mahayana Buddhism - the consciousness of the Universe. The NDE passes through Emptiness but does not actually obtain the eighth level of consciousness because that requires the body physically dying. As long as the spirit is still attached to the body then it has not totally physically died yet.
Science does not even recognize a spirit -- but it is called biophotons in quantum biology - that's the closest science has gotten. Or the quantum entanglement based on the Zeno Effect discovered in bird migration and photosynthesis in plants. So a person's heart can stop and they can be dead but their spirit can still be attached to their body and even can do miraculous things with their body and their brain -- visions and healing -- as happened with Dr. Eben Alexander.
Many spiritual masters -- like Ramana Maharshi had his heart stop for over ten minutes - and that was when he achieved "eternal liberation." This means in Mahayana Buddhism he emptied out his seventh level of consciousness. But to truly empty out his eighth level of consciousness he has to empty out the first five levels of consciousness of the body. At that stage then multiple physical bodies are created at the same time - bilocation or "yang spirits" in Taoism. But only when the person retains subjective personal consciousness of those multiple spiritual bodies - and yet is not attached to them by staying in the Emptiness of the eighth level of consciousness of the Universe - then they have achieved Supreme Complete Enlightenment.
My later comment linking the above vid and the vid description was not censored - but I posted it simply as a response of another commenter replying to my "gay porn star" outing of Conner Habib - and how it was "depressing" for Conner Habib -- which Conner vehemently denied. haha. I dare say the above video shows otherwise.
Most porn stars make pornography out of choice, not economic compulsion.
Gee interesting comment consider the psychophysiology of porn is entirely based on compulsion - so to "externalize" that dopamine addiction from the economic side of the industry seems silly to me.
Anyway obviously Conner is in denial -- but even more than that -- whether he got Reality Sandwich to censor my comment or some moderator decided it was "too long", etc. - that doesn't hold water as any regular reader of the website knows that the comment section can go on seemingly endlessly - maybe not as one long comment but certainly the same person can post over and over, etc. So whatever.
I just find it funny that a supposed "spiritual evolution" website is scared of me presenting empirical evidence because it's not politically correct. Sorry but that's how evolution works - just deal with the truth! haha.